新GRE AW:新手入门FAQ
发表于:2013-01-21 12:24     类型:备考综合

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[b]这里我整理出了针对新GRE考试 AW部分最常见的问题。各位新手在备战GRE AW部分之初,请务必认真阅读此贴。 如果各位版友还有其他问题,请PM我,我会挑选合适的问题于合适的时间添加到此贴。[/b] [b]郑重声明: 此文版权归寄托家园所有, 非经同意, 谢绝转载![/b][b] [/b] [b] [b]目录:[/b] ----------------------------------------- [b]Q1. 新G AW与老G AW有什么区别?[/b] ----------------------------------------- [b]Q2. 什么是新G AW中的instruction?新增的instructions要怎么应对?[/b] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------[b] [/b][b]Q3. AW考试时间为多久?AW Section出现在整场GRE考试的什么时间?[/b] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b]Q4. 新G AW要写多少字?[/b] ----------------------------- [b]Q5. 两篇作文都要写标题吗?[/b] -------------------------------- [b]Q6. 哪里有新AW的题库?哪里有官方范文?[/b] ------------------------------------------------ [b]Q7. 新AW的评分标准是什么?ETS怎样判分?[/b] -------------------------------------------------- [b]Q8. AW需要准备多久?[/b] -------------------------- [b]Q9. 北美范文那本书还有多大参考价值?[/b] -------------------------------------------- [b]Q10. 什么程度的作文算是雷同?[/b] ------------------------------------ [b]Q11. 怎样避免雷同?[/b] ------------------------ [b]Q12. 写作的格式要什么要求?[/b] ---------------------------------- [b]Q13. 老G AW的参考资料对于备战新G来说还有意义么?[/b] -------------------------------------------------------------- [b]Q14. 什么是AW机经和高频?[/b] --------------------------------- [b]Q15. 新G AW有高频么?老G AW的高频还有参考价值么?[/b] ----------------------------------------------------------------- [b]Q16. 需不需要上XDF?上XDF对AW有用么?[/b] --------------------------------------------------- [b]Q17. 是不是要把红宝背完才能开始准备AW?[/b] -------------------------------------------------- [b]Q18. 我的第一篇AW写了2个小时!!怎么办,我是可以去屎了么?[/b] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b]Q19. 什么时候开始练习限时写作?[/b] --------------------------------------- [b]Q20. Argument需要找出所有的错误并都写到文章中吗?[/b] ---------------------------------------------------------------- [b]Q21. 用什么软件来练习写作?[/b] ---------------------------------- [b]Q22. 如果最后出来的AW分数偏低或者直接被判雷同,我可以复议么?怎样复议?[/b] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b]Q23. AW分数的对应百分比是什么?[/b] ----------------------------------------- [b]Q24. AW要考多少分才算够?我最后只有3分怎么办?[/b] ----------------------------------------------------------- [b]附:各种传送门[/b] ===================================[b] ♦[/b][b] 分割线[/b][b] ♦[/b] =================================== [b]Q1. 新G AW与老G AW有什么区别?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]①新[/b][b]AW[/b][b]中[/b][b]issue[/b][b]的写作时间由原来的[/b][b]45min[/b][b]压缩为[/b][b]30min,[/b][b]并且没有题目二选一的形式;[/b] [b]②新[/b][b]AW[/b][b]的题库有所变化[/b][b]:Issue[/b][b]题库由原来的[/b][b]243[/b][b]题缩减为[/b][b]149[/b][b]题;[/b][b]Argument[/b][b]题库由原来的[/b][b]241[/b][b]题缩减为[/b][b]174[/b][b]题;[/b] [b]③新[/b][b]AW[/b][b]题目中增设了[/b][b]instruction: Issue[/b][b]有[/b][b]6[/b][b]个[/b][b]instructions[/b][b],[/b][b]Argument[/b][b]则有[/b][b]8[/b][b]个instructions。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q2. 什么是新G AW中的instruction?新增的instructions要怎么应对?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]([/b][b]1[/b][b])所谓[/b][b]instruction[/b][b],是指[/b][b]ETS[/b][b]为了方便考生答题、为了给考生写作以指引,所增加的写作“引导”,或者说写作“指令”;[/b] [b]([/b][b]2[/b][b])[/b][b]每种[/b][b]instruction[/b][b]都有其自己或多或少不一样的行文写法,特别是对于[/b][b]Argument[/b][b]中的[/b][b]instructions[/b][b],这[/b][b]8[/b][b]个[/b][b]instructions[/b][b]其实可以归纳为[/b][b]4[/b][b]种,针对这4种不同的instructions,需要4种不同的行文方式来应对。[/b] [b] [/b] [b]相关[/b][b]参考帖:[/b]→[url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1272158-1-1.html]【关于新G Argument 8个instruction的一点思考】[/url] [b](by 诗酒版主)[/b] [b] [/b]→[url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1290647-1-1.html]【coffee看新G】[/url] [b](by 咖啡版主)[/b] [b]附:Issue的6个instructions:[/b] Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the statement and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, you should consider ways in which the statement might or might not hold true and explain how these considerations shape your position. Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the recommendation and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, describe specific circumstances in which adopting the recommendation would or would not be advantageous and explain how these examples shape your position. Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim. In developing and supporting your position, be sure to address the most compelling reasons and/or examples that could be used to challenge your position. Write a response in which you discuss which view more closely aligns with your own position and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, you should address both of the views presented. Write a response in which you discuss the extent to which you agree or disagree with the claim and the reason on which that claim is based. Write a response in which you discuss your views on the policy and explain your reasoning for the position you take. In developing and supporting your position, you should consider the possible consequences of implementing the policy and explain how these consequences shape your position. [b]Argument的8个instructions:[/b] Write a response in which you discuss what specific evidence is needed to evaluate the argument and explain how the evidence would weaken or strengthen the argument. Write a response in which you examine the stated and/or unstated assumptions of the argument. Be sure to explain how the argument depends on these assumptions, and what the implications are for the argument if the assumptions prove unwarranted. Write a response in which you discuss what questions would need to be answered in order to decide whether the recommendation and the argument on which it is based are reasonable. Be sure to explain how the answers to these questions would help to evaluate the recommendation. Write a response in which you discuss what questions would need to be answered in order to decide whether the advice and the argument on which it is based are reasonable. Be sure to explain how the answers to these questions would help to evaluate the advice. Write a response in which you discuss what questions would need to be answered in order to decide whether the recommendation is likely to have the predicted result. Be sure to explain how the answers to these questions would help to evaluate the recommendation. Write a response in which you discuss what questions would need to be answered in order to decide whether the prediction and the argument on which it is based are reasonable. Be sure to explain how the answers to these questions would help to evaluate the prediction. Write a response in which you discuss one or more alternative explanations that could rival the proposed explanation and explain how your explanation(s) can plausibly account for the facts presented in the argument. Write a response in which you discuss what questions would need to be addressed in order to decide whether the conclusion and the argument on which it is based are reasonable. Be sure to explain how the answers to the questions would help to evaluate the conclusion. ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q3. AW考试时间为多久?AW Section出现在整场GRE考试的什么时间?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]([/b][b]1[/b][b])[/b][b]Issue[/b][b]与[/b][b]Argument[/b][b]各[/b][b]30 min[/b][b],总共[/b][b]60 min[/b][b];[/b] [b]([/b][b]2[/b][b])[/b][b]AW Section[/b][b]出现在整场考试的开始,即[/b][b]AW[/b][b]最先考。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q4. 新G AW要写多少字?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]按照老G AW的要求,两个作文最合适的字数为:Issue 500 words,Argument 400 words,但由于新G Issue的考试时间被压缩了1/3,故新G Issue很难在规定时间内写到500+的字数。对于新AW,一般来说I和A每篇400+words较为合理,450+words是比较有竞争力的字数,最低最好不要低于350 words。但我在这里想说明一下,作文的字数与最后的分数没有直接关系,不是说你写了500多个字就一定能拿高分,也不是说你只写了350个字就一定拿不了高分。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q5. 两篇作文都要写标题吗?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]不需要。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q6. 哪里有新AW的题库?哪里有官方范文?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]下载题库以及官方范文[/b]→[b][url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1362217-1-1.html]【请戳这里】[/url][/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q7. 新AW的评分标准是什么?ETS怎样判分?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b](1)AW的评分标准(摘自ETS官网):[/b][b] [/b] [b]Scores 6 and 5.5[/b] Sustains insightful,in-depth analysis of complex ideas; develops and supports main points withlogically compelling reasons and/or highly persuasive examples; is well focusedand well organized; skillfully uses sentence variety and precise vocabulary toconvey meaning effectively; demonstrates superior facility with sentencestructure and language usage, but may have minor errors that do not interferewith meaning. [b]Scores 5 and 4.5[/b] Provides generallythoughtful analysis of complex ideas; develops and supports main points withlogically sound reasons and/or well-chosen examples; is generally focused andwell organized; uses sentence variety and vocabulary to convey meaning clearly;demonstrates good control of sentence structure and language usage, but mayhave minor errors that do not interfere with meaning. [b]Scores 4 and 3.5[/b] Provides competentanalysis of ideas; develops and supports main points with relevant reasonsand/or examples; is adequately organized; conveys meaning with reasonableclarity; demonstrates satisfactory control of sentence structure and languageusage, but may have some errors that affect clarity. [b]Scores 3 and 2.5[/b] Displays somecompetence in analytical writing, although the writing is flawed in at leastone of the following ways: limited analysis or development; weak organization;weak control of sentence structure or language usage, with errors that oftenresult in vagueness or lack of clarity. [b]Scores 2 and 1.5[/b] Displays seriousweaknesses in analytical writing. The writing is seriously flawed in at leastone of the following ways: serious lack of analysis or development; lack oforganization; serious and frequent problems in sentence structure or languageusage, with errors that obscure meaning. [b]Scores 1 and 0.5[/b] Displays fundamental deficienciesin analytical writing. The writing is fundamentally flawed in at least one ofthe following ways: content that is extremely confusing or mostly irrelevant tothe assigned tasks; little or no development; severe and pervasive errors thatresult in incoherence. [b]Score Level 0[/b] The examinee'sanalytical writing skills cannot be evaluated because the responses do notaddress any part of the assigned tasks, are merely attempts to copy theassignments, are in a foreign language or display only indecipherable text. [b]Score NS[/b] The examinee producedno text whatsoever. [b](2)ETS怎样判分:首先,ETS会先把考生的作文放到雷同探测器(一款ETS引以为豪的破软件)中,看看有多少是抄袭、雷同的作文。如果被探测器测出为雷同作文,且ETS阅卷人阅卷之后也认为有雷同现象,那么,这篇作文将会被判以雷同;若安全通过了雷同探测器,那么作文会传到阅卷人手中,由几名ETS阅卷人开始阅卷。考生的Issue写作会得到0~6分的分数,Argument也会得到0~6分的分数,所以最后的AW总分=(I的分数+A的分数)/2。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q8. AW需要准备多久?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]这个问题因人而异,每个人都有不同的实力水平与追求目标。[/b][b]一般来说,[/b][b]1[/b][b]个半月到[/b][b]2[/b][b]个半月为比较合理的准备时间。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q9. 北美范文那本书还有多大参考价值?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]不可否认,这是本好书,但是,当极其大量的考生都去模仿书中的行文套路时,其价值会大大降低;GRE改革后,新AW出现了不同的instructions,这就使得北美范文中“一套模板走天下”的行文方式不再可取,其价值也就一降再降。[/b] [b]这里引用一下irvine666版主的话:[/b] [b]北美范文是某个文学功底很强的老外为了帮助所有AW考生写的一本参考书,里面全部是他自己写的AW文章,大概囊括了1/3-1/2的AW题目,其中包括很多高频,文章的用词和语言也很不错。但是这本书有一个很致命的弱点就是它的作者只有一个人,所以写出来的作文风格全部是千篇一律的死板,而且此书出版于04年,到现在已经8年时间了,毫不夸张的说世界上至少有10万人以上是背过里面的文章来写AW的。因此ETS在这本书方面卡雷同卡的很死,全部模仿里面的文章写容易拿到很低的分。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q10. 什么程度的作文算是雷同?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]有关雷同方面的信息、案例与汇总[/b]→[b][url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=1149863&highlight=]【请戳这里】[/url][/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q11. 怎样避免雷同?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]①不要全文照抄参考资料上的例文;[/b] [b]②不要照抄寄托、太傻等论坛上版友的[/b][b]AW[/b][b]习作;[/b] [b]③不要一字不动的套用别人的模板,[/b][b]即使觉某个模板非常棒,也不能直接套用,you need to paraphrase;[/b] [b]④尽量不要使用那些被用烂的、全世界人民闭着眼睛用脚趾头猜都能猜出来你要用什么样的例子来证明你观点的例子。[/b] [b] [/b] [b] [/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q12. 写作的格式有什么要求?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]注意区分大小写(对于特定的名词需大写),每个单词中间空一格,标点符号后空一格;[/b][b]关于段与段之间的格式,有两种,任选一即可:[/b] [b]①每段首句句首不空格,段与段之间空一行;[/b][b] [/b][b]②每段首句句首空[/b][b]4[/b][b]个字母,段与段之间不空行。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q13. 老G AW的参考资料对于备战新G来说还有意义么?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]还是有的。虽然新AW题库与老AW题库不同,但两者之间存在着相当一部分重复的题目(内容相同,题号不同),老AW的资料中的一些经典资料依旧会给以启发。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q14. 什么是AW机经和高频?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]([/b][b]1[/b][b])什么是[/b][b]AW[/b][b]机经:所谓机经是指由已经考过试的同学将记忆中的题目记录下来并发到论坛上,由版主或热心网友整理而得的资料。[/b] [b]([/b][b]2[/b][b])什么是[/b][b]AW[/b][b]高频:我们知道,[/b][b]ETS[/b][b]出题是从[/b][b]AW[/b][b]题库中,由计算机随机抽取题目来作为考题,故有些题目出现的次数会比较多,有些则比较少。那些出现频率较高的题目我们便称之为高频题。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q15. 新G AW有高频么?老G AW的高频还有参考价值么?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]([/b][b]1[/b][b])因为到目前为止,新[/b][b]G[/b][b]考试施行的时间较短,各种机经与资料信息十分缺乏,依据之前为数不多的新[/b][b]G[/b][b]考试而整理出来的高频并不十分靠谱。不过我们作文版已开贴统计,希望各位版友考完后能到作文版汇报一下[/b][b]AW[/b][b]机经。送人玫瑰,手有余香。[/b] [b]([/b][b]2[/b][b])老[/b][b]G[/b][b]的高频已经没有参考意义了,因为题号已完全改变,且一些题目的细节内容也有变化。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q16. 需不需要上XDF?上XDF对AW有用么?[/b] [/b] [b]A: 这个问题老生常谈了。我的观点是:如果你有时间,有money,那么报一个班也无妨,上XDF可以使你快速入门,能让你清晰了解GRE是个什么玩意,该怎么去玩它。但不要幻想上了XDF之后你的AW水平会有质的飞跃。XDF起的是辅导作用,最终还是要靠自己。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q[/b][b]17. [/b][b]是不是要把红宝背完才能开始准备AW?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]背不背红宝和能不能写AW完全没有关系。ETS没有要求在AW中运用GRE词汇,ETS更看重的是考生文章的逻辑与思想内容。用四六级词汇照样能写出一篇好GRE作文。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q18. 我的第一篇AW写了2个小时!!怎么办,我是可以去屎了么?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]这是正常现象,不必为第一篇作文花了两三个小时来写而沮丧。[/b][b]GRE[/b][b]作文向来以其严谨性和学术性著称,第一篇作文就能达到[/b][b]ETS[/b][b]的要求实际上是非常困难的。万事开头难,写第一篇作文总是最痛苦的,但再痛苦也要写,作文这东西孰能生巧,练多了,也就会写了。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q19. 什么时候开始练习限时写作?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]还是那句话,因人而异。建议越早越好,最晚考前20天左右开始。有时候速度就是分数,应尽早适应考场上的时间限制。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q20. Argument需要找出所有的错误并都写到文章中吗?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]这里引用sakuraanne版主的话:[/b] [b]由于A的写作时间相对I来说更不充分(30分钟写作时间,可能还要扣掉4-5分钟的读题时间),因此普通水平的同学们想写出3个以上的点外加每个点详细论述是很困难的一件事情。 在逻辑错误的个数和每个错误的论述详细程度的选择上,我们推荐后者。也就是说:如果你能找出4+个错误,与其每个错误用1,2句分析草草带过,不如就写3个关键错误,每个错误写上150-200字来得分高。 [/b][b]当然,这个字数的前提是模板句里面的套路话和废话必须排除在外。[/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q21. 用什么软件来练习写作?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]可以用写字板,也可以用Kaplan(其界面与真实考试界面很相似)等模考软件。如果PP2做的早的话,也可以直接用PP2来练习作文(没有用PP2之前请不要用此软件练作文)。另外,切记:绝对不要用Word来练习写作!因为Word自带纠错功能,在码字的过程中就能发现错误并改正,这完全没有意义。关于Word的正确使用方法,应当是在其他地方写完作文之后,贴到Word上,利用其自动纠错功能来检查。 [/b] [b]另,推荐一款自助修改语法错误的软件[/b]→[b][url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1367357-1-1.html]【Ginger】[/url][/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q22. 如果最后出来的AW分数偏低或者直接被判雷同,我可以复议么?如何复议?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]有关复议[/b]→[b][url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1326065-1-1.html]【请戳这里】[/url][/b] ====================================================================== [b] [b]Q23. AW分数的对应百分比是什么?[/b] [/b] [b]A:[/b] [b]新AW成绩 0~6分每个分数都对应一个百分比,此百分比为考生所考的AW成绩在全球考生成绩中的排名所占百分数,例如,AW 4分对应的百分比为48%,即全球有48%的考生AW分数低于4分。[/b] [b] [/b][b]附:[/b][b]Analytical Writing Interpretative Data Used on Score Reports[/b][b] [/b] [img]http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/attachments/12051201093b189a0e620682cb.png[/img] ====================================================================== [b]Q24. AW要考多少分才算够?我最后只有3分怎么办?[/b] [b]A:[/b] [b](1)每个[/b][b]学校、[/b][b]每个专业[/b][b]对[/b][b]AW[/b][b]的[/b][b]要求[/b][b]都有所不同。[/b][b]对于[/b][b]文科专业的同学[/b][b],[/b][b]AW[/b][b]分数[/b][b]要求[/b][b]相对[/b][b]较高,[/b][b]而[/b][b]对于[/b][b]理工科专业[/b][b]的[/b][b]同学,[/b][b]学校[/b][b]更看重[/b][b]Quantitative[/b][b]部分[/b][b]的[/b][b]分数。[/b][b]一般来说,3.5[/b][b]分[/b][b]以上[/b][b]较为[/b][b]保险,4[/b][b]分以上[/b][b]是[/b][b]比较[/b][b]有[/b][b]竞争力[/b][b]的[/b][b]分数,[/b][b]最低[/b][b]不要[/b][b]低过3[/b][b]分;[/b] [b](2)[/b][b]从[/b][b]往年[/b][b]的[/b][b]数据[/b][b]来看,[/b][b]相当一部分[/b][b]大陆考生[/b][b]的[/b][b]AW[/b][b]分数[/b][b]都集中在3[/b][b]分,3[/b][b]分[/b][b]可以说[/b][b]是[/b][b]AW[/b][b]的[/b][b]一个底线。[/b][b]有些[/b][b]同学[/b][b]可能会[/b][b]担心[/b][b]AW[/b][b]拿了3[/b][b]分[/b][b]可能会[/b][b]拖后腿,[/b][b]这里我想说[/b][b]几句:[/b][b]在[/b][b]整个申请过程[/b][b]中,GRE成绩只占其中的一部分,只要你的GRE成绩过了学校的要求,学校会更看重你的GPA、科研背景、学术成果和实习经历等其他方面的因素,如果你够优秀,学校不会因为你AW只考了个3分而不考虑你。另,正如我上一点所说,3分到底够不够用,因不同学校、不同专业而异。具体每个学校每个专业对AW的要求,请自行查阅学校官网。[/b] ===================================[b] ♦[/b][b] 分割线[/b][b] ♦[/b] =================================== [b]各种传送门:[/b] [b] [/b][url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=1296750&page=1#pid1775444511]【AW资料总汇(小苏斑竹整理)】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1367201-1-1.html]【 AW素材分享 】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/forumdisplay.php?fid=23&filter=type&typeid=146]【AW版资料分享区】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/forum-779-1.html]【AW版心得感想区】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-709588-1-1.html]【AW版超级入口(虽然是老G AW的,但对于新 AW来说仍有很大参考意义)】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-858219-1-1.html]【关于机经】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-798904-1-1.html]【AW进阶手册】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-894597-1-1.html]【Transition words 大全】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-908536-1-1.html]【针对Argument的资料收集】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/forum-827-1.html]【Issue专项突破】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/forum-513-1.html]【Argument专项突破】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=1272162&extra=page%3D1%26amp%3Bfilter%3Dtype%26amp%3Btypeid%3D280]【新Argument难题总汇】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=1272163&extra=page%3D1%26amp%3Bfilter%3Dtype%26amp%3Btypeid%3D280&page=1]【新Issue难题总汇】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=1289780&extra=page%3D1%26amp%3Bfilter%3Dtype%26amp%3Btypeid%3D146]【 AW“追梦同路人”资料咖啡店】[/url] [url=http://bbs.gter.net/bbs/thread-1304819-1-1.html]【新G Issue & Argument参考提纲】[/url]